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CONSERVA= TION COMMISSION/INLAND WETLAND AGENCY

CONTINUA= TION OF PUBLIC HEARING

JOHN TRU= MBULL PRIMARY SCHOOL MEDIA CENTER

THURSDAY, MARCH 11, 2004 - 7:30 P.M.

APPLICAT= ION #487 – GUERNSEYTOWN FARMS ESTATES LLC, PHASE III

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PRESENT:     &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;          Bernard Beauchamp

            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;          Ron Jones, Secretary

            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;          Joseph Polletta

      = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;    Charles Thermer

            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;          Edwin Undercuffler, Vice Chairman

            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;          James Zawadzki, Chairman

ABSENT:      = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            = Glen Duplissie

ALTERNATES PRESENT:      = ;        Mary Sturgis

ALTERNATES ABSENT:      = ;          Susan Atwood

            =             &nb= sp;            =             &nb= sp;          Peter Peluso

OTHERS PRESENT:   &n= bsp;            = ;        Charles Berger, Town Engineer

      = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;            &n= bsp;            = ;    Moosa Rafey, Assistant Wetlands Enforcement Officer

1.         = Call Meeting To Order

            Mr. Zawadzki, Chairman, called the Public Hearing to order at 8:30 p.m.

2.     &nb= sp;   Roll Call

            Mr. Jones, Secretary, executed the Roll Call.

            Mr. Zawadzki, Chairman, asked Ms. Sturgis to sit in for Mr. Duplissie, in his absence.

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CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING

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3.         = Hearing of Applications

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        &= nbsp;   B.         = Continuation of Public Hearing from February 19, 2004 - Application #487 of Guernseytown Farms Estates, LLC, Phase III for 10 lot residential subdivision, Guernseyt= own Road, Watertown, CT.

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        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Recess or Adjourn Public Hearing must be Closed by March 25, 2004.

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        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Jim Sakonchick, Engineer, Kratzert= & Jones

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  &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Mr. Sakonchick: This concerns Phase II= I and the Commission might remember that Phase III is along Guernseytown Road on = the west the Watertown Fire District watershed on the north, the wetlands on Ph= ase II on the east and Killorin Road on the south. Mr. Berger requested a series of technical data to be done. Mo= st specifically he wanted cross sections done along Guernseytown Road. He wanted an analysis of the effec= t on the Watertown Fire District pond which required a survey of the spillway, a= nd due to the inclement weather, the snow pack on the ground, and other such issues, we were unable to get the raw data for that, made the calculations provide him with the information given him time to review it and be prepare= d to respond with the answers to the Commission tonight. So due to mother nature, the snow, we’re requesting that Phase III be withdrawn, hopefully without prejudice, and permission to immediately reapply for the same Phase III wit= hout penalty.

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        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Mr. Zawadzki: Yea, I don’t see any pro= blem with that.

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        &= nbsp;   = ;           Mr. Rafey: I need a letter in writing that they’re withdrawing the application.
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Franklin Pilicy, Attorney Representing Applicant

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        &= nbsp;   = ;           Atty. Pilicy: We’ll re-fi= le right away with the survey information and we’ll be able to re-file without repayment of fees.

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        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Mr. Rafey: That’s up to the Commiss= ion.

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Atty. Pilicy: = Well this is all as a = result of additional information that’s being required by the Town, it’= ;s not really (inaudible).

CONSERVATION COMMISSION/INLAND WETLAND AGENCY=

CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING

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        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Joseph Calabrese, Applicant

Mr. Calabrese: The reason we weren= 217;t able to do it is because of the snow. (Inaudible) to do it earlier, when we got the direction to do it, we= had to wait for the snow to (inaudible) surveying all along the drainage area a= nd the snow just (inaudible maybe last week, which he did the survey (inaudibl= e) but it was too late for this meeting. So we’re just asking that we won’t be penalized for that, cause we weren’t able to do it.

  &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;        Mr. Zawadzki: Well we didn’t m= ake the snow either, unfortunately but I can appreciate your position. How does the Commission feel about= that.

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        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Mr. Calabrese: We paid for the public hearing notice (inaudible).

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Mr. Rafey: $150.00 for the public hearing.

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        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Mr. Polletta: You have to come back in the f= uture right for this?

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Mr. Calabrese: Yes.=

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Mr. Polletta: So why can’t we . . . . = .

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Mr. Rafey: It’s a new application.

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Mr. Polletta: So why can’t we use the,= the same money that you have in now for the new application?<= /p>
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Mr. Calabrese: Yes, well we prefer no= t to have to pay for the meeting.

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Mr. Polletta: I feel it’s only fair du= e to the weather. You mean it̵= 7;s not that he didn’t want to do it, he couldn’t do it. I feel it is a difference if you don’t put the time into do it, and I mean if the weather, if there is frost on the ground and they couldn’t do the test, I feel that, I spe= ak for myself, I think that they should use the money for the next application= .

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Mr. Rafey: They cannot use that m= oney, but the Commission can waive the application fee. The application will be done and c= losed, but the new application the Commission can waive the fee.=

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        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Mr. Polletta: I feel that we should waive th= e fee.

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Mr. Rafey: But I do not recommend waiving the public hearing fee because it’s (inaudible) Town of Watertown.

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   MOTION:       (Mr. Polletta, sec. Mr. Thermer) to waive the reapplication fee, but not the pub= lic hearing fee, for App. #487 of Guernseytown Farms Estates, LLC Phase III for= 10 lot residential subdivision, Guernseytown Road, Watertown, CT.

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Discussi= on: = ;      None

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MOTION P= ASSED UNANIMOUSLY

        &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   MOTION:       (Mr. Polletta, sec. Mr. Thermer) to Close the Public Hearing for App. #487 of Guernseytown Farms Estates, LLC Phase III for 10 lot residential subdivisio= n, Guernseytown Road, Watertown, CT.

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Discussi= on: = ;      None

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MOTION P= ASSED UNANIMOUSLY

  &nbs= p;         Public Hearing Closed at 8:35 p.m.

Respect= fully submitted,

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Ronald = Jones, Secretary

Conserv= ation Commission/

Inland Wetland Agency

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  &nbs= p;         Lynn M. LaForme, Minutes Secretary